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 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: Who is your favorite Elven King in The Silmarillion? |
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Just a little poll to see where people stand.  If you like, go ahead and tell us why you voted the way you did.
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Fingon
the Valiant, who healed the breach between the houses of Finwë and
rescued his cousin Maedhros while the rest of the Noldor did nothing.
He also repelled the first dragon attack in history.
He was about to become the first to kill a balrog in single combat when one of the balrog's buddies stepped in and cheated.
And he is the source of one of the poignant passages in the Silm:
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Fingon looked towards Thangorodrim, and there was a dark cloud about
it, and a black smoke went up; and he knew that the wrath of Morgoth
was aroused, and that their challenge was accepted. A shadow of doubt
fell upon Fingon's heart; and he looked eastwards, seeking if he might
see with elven-sight the dust of Anfauglith rising beneath the hosts of
Maedhros. He knew not that Maedhros was hindered in his setting-forth
by the guile of Uldor the accursed, who deceived him with false
warnings of assault from Angband.
But now a cry went up, passing up the wind from the south from vale
to vale, and Elves and Men lifted their voices in wonder and joy. For
unsummoned and unlocked for Turgon had opened the leaguer of Gondolin,
and was come with an army ten thousand strong, with bright mail and
long swords and spears like a forest. Then when Fingon heard afar the
great trumpet of Turgon his brother, the shadow passed and his heart
was uplifted, and he shouted aloud: 'Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar
Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! The day has come! Behold, people of the Eldar
and Fathers of Men, the day has come!' And all those who heard his
great voice echo in the hills answered crying: 'Auta i lómë! The night
is passing!'
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Within a few days he was dead... 
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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I can't believe I forgot to put Fingon in the poll.
It wasn't intentional, I promise.
Although I must say that I prefer Finrod - perhaps not the fighter
Fingon was, but I'm drawn to his loyalty and 'goodness', as well as his
wisdom.
This is, of course, only including Elven Kings in Middle-earth...Fëanor wins, otherwise. 
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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I'm
mostly a Silm guy, in which Finrod was only a supporting character. He
seems really great but it would have been nice to have a story or two
with Finrod as the main character. There's a lot more of him in HoME, I
suppose, but I haven't gotten to it all yet.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| The Dread Pirate Roberts wrote: | | He seems really great but it would have been nice to have a story or two with Finrod as the main character. |
Since there aren't any that I know of other than Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth, we have to go for what's the second best.
Writing them ourselves.
But if you've got HoME 10, DO read the Athrabeth (if you haven't already). It's my single top favorite Tolkien text. (And the background for Not for Arda over at Entmoot.)
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Of course the main part of the HoME concerning Finrod is Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth which you've already read.
But I'm actually referring to The Silmarillion - I think his part in 'Of Beren and Lúthien' makes him stick out as honourable, and just plain 'good.'
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Gil-Galad was an elven king
of him the harpers sadly sing
the last whose realm was fair and free
between the mountains and the sea!
Took over leadership in utterly hopeless circumstances, made through
the War of Wrath and proceeded to last longer than any of his
predecessors. Uncertain paternity aside, definitely the elven king I
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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Orodreth. I don't know why. 
I noticed his name was different from the others, though. But I really
like all very much. Turgon, Fingon, Finrod, Fingolfin, all great
characters.
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Ingwë, the wisest of all 
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| Artaresto wrote: | | Orodreth. I don't know why. |
Oh man, please don't get me started. I don't know who I dislike more, Orodreth or Fëanor.
No offense intended to any of my fellow Dorthonionites (or is that
Dorthonionor? Dorthonionia? I better stick with Man-talk. Elvish not
DPR strong suit.)
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| Eluchil wrote: | | Ingwë, the wisest of all |
I'd like to hear some Vanyar stories but I'm thinking there's probably
very little to tell. Stories without antagonists are rarely worth
hearing.
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Have to admit I never got much out of the Vanyar...they seem a bit perfect for my taste.
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Yes, stupid Vanyar not creating Silmarils and going into exile. Suck-ups.
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Indeed - and yet Ingwë is not challenged as king of the Eldalië
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it) there is ever a rift, and in the walls of Doom a breach, until the
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secret voice that gainsayeth, and a light where darkness was decreed."
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I like Indis and Amárië - at least they had good taste in men.
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